Episode 285: Adrianne Lenker

“Sadness As a Gift”


Adrianne Lenker is a singer and songwriter. She’s the lead singer of the critically acclaimed and beloved band Big Thief, and her work as a solo artist is also critically acclaimed and beloved. Her most recent solo album, Bright Future, was named one of the best albums of 2024 by the New Yorker, Stereogum, and more, and it was nominated for a Grammy for Best Folk Album. It was co-produced by Adrianne and longtime collaborator Phil Weinrobe. And I talked to the two of them about the making of one of my favorite songs from it, “Sadness As a Gift.”

You can buy or stream “Sadness As a Gift” here.

Illustration by Carlos Lerma.

footnotes:
Nick Hakim – piano
Josefin Runsteen – violin, backing vocals
Mat Davidson – electric guitar, backing vocals

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Episode 284: Sabrina Carpenter

“Please Please Please”


Sabrina Carpenter is a singer, songwriter and actress. She had a huge year with her album Short n’ Sweet, which came out in August 2024. It debuted at #1, and went platinum within a month. At the upcoming Grammys, she’s nominated for Song of the Year, Record of the Year, Album of the Year, Best New Artist, and more. One of her big hits is “Please Please Please,” which she wrote with Amy Allen and producer Jack Antonoff. He’s won Producer of the Year at the Grammys for the last three years in a row. For this episode, I talked to Sabrina and Jack about everything that went into making “Please Please Please.”

You can buy or stream “Please, Please, Please” here.

Illustration by Carlos Lerma.

For a transcript of this episode, click here.

footnotes:
Radio City Music Hall
“Lie To Girls” and “Slim Pickins”
Dolly Parton
LinnDrum – drum machine
Jupiter and Juno – synths
Electric Light Orchestra
The Beatles

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Episode 283: Gracie Abrams

“I Love You, I’m Sorry”


Gracie Abrams is a singer and songwriter from Los Angeles. She started putting out music in 2020, and in June 2024, she put out her second album, The Secret of Us. She was nominated for a Grammy for Best New Artist, and this year she’s up for another Grammy, for Best Duo Performance, for her collaboration with Taylor Swift. But for this episode, I talked to Gracie about her song “I Love You, I’m Sorry.” It was produced by Aaron Dessner, at Long Pond Studio in upstate New York, and it was co-written with Audrey Hobert.

Coming up, you’ll hear the isolated tracks from the studio recording, but you’ll also get to hear a lot of the voice memos that Gracie recorded during the writing process. I think it’s so nice to have these raw moments documented because, as you’ll hear, they give you an insight not just into the song, but into the relationship that Gracie and her co-writer, Audrey, have as friends.

You can buy or stream “I Love You, I’m Sorry” here.

Illustration by Carlos Lerma.

For a transcript of this episode, click here.

footnotes:
Rob Moose – strings
Bella Blasko – engineer
The National
“I miss you, I’m sorry”

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